Question Number: 14859

Mechanics 2/17/2007

RE: rec Adult

alex of richmond hill, on canada asks...

This question is a follow up to question 14842

The impression I have after reading the answers is there are two options available and both are correct.

A pk taker stops before kicking the ball during an initial attempt, steps back for another try.

If the ref considered there is an infringement and let the kicker proceed with the retry, then a goal from the kick will be void and requires a retake. If the ref considers the retry as a fresh try, then a goal from the kick counts.

Do I understand the answers to question 14842 correctly?

Answer provided by Referee Richard Dawson

Hi Alex,
in my opinion you are correct a referee who stops the kick from occurring even if it is a wrong procedure must at least allow it to occur.
If he stops play, cautions and then continues the goal is good! A miss play continues!
If he simply decides to let the player do his thing and then claim it was wrong, take away the goal caution and retake. A miss and indfk out I worry this concept of procedural misconduct has created an INDFK mentality immediately no matter the result.
In the two Q&A at least the ball is contacted when the procedural irregularities occur.


If you read the Q&A several conflicting situations are presented

The player who jumps the gun gets off Scott free not even suggested we Should/Could caution??

3. A player takes a penalty kick before the referee has signalled. What action does the referee take?
He orders the kick to be retaken.

If a goal was scored why is it not retaken? They appear to maintain a procedural mistake even BEFORE the ball is in play nullifies the attempt???

When a penalty kick is being taken, and after the referee has given
the necessary signal, a team-mate of the player identified ed to take the kick suddenly rushes forward and takes it instead. What action does the referee take?
The referee stops play and restarts the match with an indirect free kick to the defending team where the infringement occurred i.e. where the player advanced closer than 9.15m. The player is cautioned for unsporting behaviour.


Here we have a FIGHT??? and we ignore it until the PK occurs??What if after the signal was given the Pk kicker notices the fight and stops and stares in disbelief? The procedural elements of the PK are not affected so we must allow it as the two combatants beat each other senseless?

The referee signals for a penalty kick to be taken. An attacking player then violently punches an opponent outside the penalty area. The referee notices the incident. What action does the referee take?
The referee allows the kick to proceed. If the ball enters the goal, the
kick is retaken.
If the ball does not enter the goal, the referee stops play and restarts
the match with an indirect free kick to the defending team from the
place where the infringement occurred and sends off the player for
violent conduct.

Again no retake as it is a procedural perversion

8. A player taking a penalty kick back heels the ball to a team-mate who kicks the ball into the goal. What action does the referee take?
The referee stops play and restarts the match with an indirect free kick to the defending team at the penalty mark. This would be considered to be an infringement of the procedure in Law 14.

13. A player taking a penalty kick feints before kicking the ball. Is this permitted?
Yes.

The gray area of just what a referee could allow and when it crosses over seem to be evident given the recent responses. Personally I do not like this tinkering. We now have a signal to begin as the start of a loss of possession without a ball even being kicked into play? I thought misconduct before a restart was treated separately, there seems to be a blending here and not sure why?
Cheers

Answer provided by Referee Chuck Fleischer

So, what you, as referee, need to look for is this: if the kicker goes past the ball in her/his feign at the penalty kick stop things and reset the kick from the beginning. If the kicker stutter steps or backs up or whatever and you think this is the same as any other free kick let things go until there is some resolution. If you feel there has been unsporting behaviour stop things, get out the discipline and take the penalty kick that you prevented from being completed. The whole thing is: the referee who stopped the kick then awarded the indirect free kick improperly restarted play. Your options are only to intervene before the kick then take the kick OR let things resolve themselves and act accordingly.

Regards,